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Venezuela鈥檚 Authoritarian Allies: The Ties That Bind?

A new book published by the Latin American Program, Venezuela鈥檚 Authoritarian Allies: The Ties That Bind? explores the international dimensions of regime survival in Venezuela. Specifically, the book examines the ways that international allies of Nicol谩s Maduro鈥檚 authoritarian government have assisted it in surviving a calamitous period of economic decline, punishing U.S. economic sanctions, and internal pressures for political change.

This book, edited by Cynthia J. Arnson, aims to fill an important gap in the understanding of the international dimensions of the Venezuelan crisis. It details how a range of international allies鈥擱ussia, China, Cuba, India, Turkey, and Iran鈥攈ave aligned with Caracas for a variety of economic, political, ideological, and geostrategic reasons. Understanding the diversity of these interests and motivations is key to determining how, if at all, the relationships might be modified. 

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Selected Quotes

 
James Bosworth 

鈥淥ne of the things we've seen in recent years is that Iran has trained Venezuela how to evade sanctions.鈥 

鈥淲e (the U.S.) have pushed together the sanctioned countries and given them a reason to form alliances and form financial ties that allows them to evade those sanctions.鈥 

鈥淲e are talking big geopolitical relationships, country-to-country relationships, but we also have the role of super-facilitators and the role of personal relationships that exist around the world are just as important as country-to-country relationships. We can be much more effective in sanctioning countries when we go after those super-facilitators.鈥 

Richard E. Feinberg 

鈥淏asically, the relationship has been a barter relationship between the two nations, Cuba and Venezuela, in which they exchange goods and services where they have comparative advantages and surplus. Oil on the one hand, security assistance and doctors on the other.鈥 

鈥淲e have driven Cuba and Venezuela closer and closer together because we put them in the same box and we are very antagonistic to both.鈥 

鈥淭he U.S. ought to try a more subtle policy of dividing Cuba and Venezuela while recognizing that that's not going to be an easy diplomatic maneuver.鈥 

Brian Fonseca 

鈥淐uban security officials exercise really important and significant influence in Venezuela, and provide the technical support to the Maduro regime."

鈥淭he two governments [Cuba and Venezuela] have not been very transparent about the size and scope of any contingent of Cuban military and security forces in Venezuela... At the same time, the U.S. and other countries have, at times, exaggerated (in our opinion) the number of Cuban security forces or intelligence forces on the ground.鈥 

鈥淥ne of the most important things we can do is disaggregate U.S. policy in the narrative towards Venezuela from the narrative towards Cuba. They are two very different countries with very different meanings for U.S. national interest."

Stephen B. Kaplan 

鈥淚mportantly, when we think鈥 how does China behave in Venezuela bilaterally, we need to think regionally as well鈥 The entry point for China to the region was in many ways, economically, in Venezuela. But that being said, they now have much more of a diversified posture within the region. So when we think of China, we should think of them almost in terms of a portfolio, that they鈥檙e gonna be concerned about their investments and their relations throughout the region. So, what they鈥檝e done to some extent鈥 is they鈥檝e taken some lessons as a creditor in Venezuela and applied it elsewhere. In other words, they鈥檝e diversified their instruments.鈥 

鈥淨uite often, from a Washington D.C. perspective, China is treated geopolitically and even monolithically. So I think a key point and takeaway from our chapter is that this is a power that is often incremental, often diversified in its tool set, and quite willing to change its investments toward the market and even away from the state to the extent to which it needs to. That is exemplified in the case of Venezuela, where鈥 from the portfolio of investments, there鈥檚 been a lot of mispricing of risk鈥 I very much would like to conclude emphasizing the geo-economic nature of this relation and not just the political nature of the relationship.鈥 

Imdat Oner 

鈥淗ow we can describe Turkey-Venezuela relations is with non-transparency, and more kind of a murky, shady business. And this of course highly benefits government members in both countries.鈥 

鈥淢aduro鈥檚 regime, several times, offered Turkey to play a mediator role between the opposition and the government, because we know that some Venezuelan opposition鈥 believe that Turkey still plays a critical role because Turkey is a NATO ally and Turkey is a U.S. ally鈥 But it鈥檚 kind of an overoptimism that Turkey could play a mediator role because the other parts of the opposition鈥 don鈥檛 trust Turkey.鈥 

鈥淸The alliance between Turkey and Venezuela] is an alliance of convenience, that is far from any strategic relations, far from any institutionalization between the two countries. So I think we will not see Turkey in the Venezuelan picture after Erdo臒an loses power because we see these relations mostly based on the Erdo臒an-Maduro rapprochement.鈥 

Michael A. Penfold 

鈥淐hina has been moving also towards more of a political relationship with Venezuela in the sense that they have been more willing to help the country, particularly under COVID-19, with medical supplies, vaccinations, rather than only exclusively through loans and oil purchases. And this is, I think, a very important shift also, because it鈥檚 one where China is privileging its long-term interest in Venezuela, which is to keep the relationship going but using different tools in the short-term to support the regime through other means, and without losing sight that the real interest is in the oil sector.鈥 

鈥淩ussia is today the third [largest] provider of oil to the U.S., and in part, the reason for that is that they benefited enormously from Venezuela being out of the market in the U.S. and selling oil through the refineries鈥 By contrast, China has stayed, protecting its long-term interest in Venezuela. So I think overall鈥 they want to see a solution to the current situation in Venezuela in order to have what they perceive [as] an important upside in the reconstruction of the oil industry. Of course, the way鈥 that political conflict is settled will determine what kind of role they can or cannot play in Venezuela in terms of international financing to reconstruct the oil industry.鈥 

John Polga-Hecimovich 

鈥淰enezuela is a commercial lifeline for Cuba the way India and China are commercial lifelines for Venezuela." 

鈥淲e know Cuba receives Venezuelan oil in order to maintain its economy and Venezuela receives Cuban intelligence and military advisor support so that essentially Nicol谩s Maduro can remain in power.鈥 

鈥淎 hypothetical demise of Maduro or of chavismo would have a significant impact on Cuba and plunge it into another special period.鈥 

Vladimir Rouvinski 

鈥淩ussia鈥檚 participation in the Venezuelan crisis was determined for keeping Maduro in power and remains as the most important ally of Venezuela on the global stage鈥擨 have no doubt of this. But sometimes I think the Russian鈥檚 motivations to support Venezuela have been perhaps wrongly interpreted. I think, yes, there [are] important security implications of the Russians participation in the Venezuelan case, and Russia does look for reciprocity. But in my opinion, that reciprocity is mostly symbolic.鈥 

鈥淚 think for Russia, as well as for China, but from a different perspective, Venezuela became an entry point to Latin America. Actually, the real Russian return to Latin America began with Venezuela and it was because Putin and Ch谩vez understood that this kind of a relation can be mutually beneficial in terms of them keeping the power in their respective countries. I think one of the most important outcomes of the Russian love story with Venezuela is actually that Russia is now feeling very, very comfortable everywhere in Latin America. They can do a lot of new stuff in Latin America and that is because of the knowledge acquired thanks to their relationship with Venezuela.鈥 

Hari Seshasayee 

鈥淥ver the past five years, India has imported about $26 billion worth of oil from Venezuela. And all of that is just hard foreign currency. It doesn鈥檛 go back to paying loans like China does鈥 So to put that in perspective, that鈥檚 nearly double of what, last year, Turkey, Cuba, and Iran combined imported from Venezuela over the past five years. This is really the reason why India is even included in this book, because it is a commercial lifeline for the Venezuelan regime. Most other analyses you鈥檇 see of Venezuela's external partners would focus mostly on the political allies and they would exclude India.鈥 

鈥淚 should emphasize that, unlike鈥 China, [who] is an ideological ally to chavismo, India is not. India is鈥 the odd one out in this book. It is not an autocracy like the other countries we鈥檇 be discussing today, and it鈥檚 not a political ally. It鈥檚 just a commercial ally. And perhaps the biggest example of this is that the Indian Prime Minister has actually never met Maduro. Over the past eight years, Maduro has not met the Indian head of government.鈥 

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